The full sized version of the HK45 has a 4.5-inch barrel, weighs thirty-one ounces unloaded, and takes a ten-round magazine. I dont sweat the trigger, these are combat pistols, not hyper accurate target pistols. I think you've covered it just as well here. I ran about 1200 rounds through a P30 V1 which I eventually converted to a V4.1 and still couldn't take a liking to it (though it was better as a V4.1). I have a full size USP 45 and love it. The difference between the two in price after modification is less than $50. I have. Plus 12 round capacity vs 10. The magazine release lever is a non-issue with me. The FN holds 15+1. HK243 S SAR HK243 S TAR USC MR223 A3 - 11" MR223 A3 ... HK45 | Technical Data. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. The HK45 is comfy, ergonomic, and feels GREAT. Very accurate pistols. I have both...if you’re deciding which one to get I’d go with the USP it’s a great shooting pistol with a larger mag...hk45 has a 10 rd mag which is fine not making a fuss because I love my hk45...if your budget allows buy both and an mr762 if not stick with the USP it’s a classic that’s well respected...the Double action on the HK45 is a little lighter to me than the USP...but then again who isn’t cocked and locked all the time Amiright?? Iâm thinking of picking one of the two. HK45 vs USP 45. The two pistols are not comparable except for the caliber and recoil. Capacity is reduced by 2 in HK45. I would run this DA/SA like my P30's so LEM isn't an option. Bought them together in 1995. 1,364 Posts . I think I need to prowl around the LGS's some more and try out a few more before I commit to any decision. I have the HK45 too and adore it. Either was going to be just a for fun gun for me. I have. Hey everyone Iâm thinking about purchasing a hk. I've had HK .45's in the full-size and compact model; when I went to get my XD .45 compact earlier in the week, the store had a pristine condition .45 USP compact for $799. Heckler & Koch Pistol Shootout P30 vs. HK45. The HK USP is big. When I was shopping for a .45 it was between the FN45 tactical and the HK45. Also, while accurate, the USP was not generally what many would call match grade. I love them both, but I CC the 45 for obvious reasons, but if I’m hiking around I carry the USP because extra rounds and I just flat out have more USP mags. The HK45 and USP45 are dang close in allot of areas but different elsewhere. It's massively accurate beyond my ability to shoot with naturally shaking hands. Short story: Hands down the HK is more well made and solid. I have a full size USP 45 and love it. the HK45 either CT or T is the newest of the 3, and middle of the road. I expect all three to outlast me ð The SS is my bedside weapon, the standard USP is for winter CWP (summer CWP is a Glock 26). The o-ring mounted at the front of the barrel minimises any barrel play. The HK45 is an evolutionary step forward from the USP, chambered in .45 ACP. Anyone have a lot of experience with both of these platforms? Very informative. I have meaty hands, so both were ergonomic "enough," but the HK45 ⦠I did not notice a recoil difference between a USP 45 and HK45. In ~5500 combined rounds I have yet to have a malfunction. I actually really like the USP grip, but I also like the HK45 grip. But on the flip side, it adds character. I have. Using search and not finding exactly what I'm looking for. If you don't want to contribute to the thread, please don't post use 'search'. I already have a full size 45 (Gen 3 G21 with a tactical length LW slide). HK45 vs USP 45. Joined Jan 5, 2013 Messages 650 Likes 109 Location Weston MA. The HK USP 45 full size handgun is available in V1, which operates via double-action/single action, with a manual safety/decocking lever on the left side of the frame, or the V7 LEM variant which has the feel and response of a DA revolver with the crisp action of a SA pistol and no manual safety. I have a Stainless USP .45 full size, and a regular finished USP .45 full size. You’ll get the better trigger pull, you just won’t get the overtravel stop. The most obvious change from the USP is the use of a more ergonomic polymer grip with interchangeable backstraps. Now the con: 1: USP holds 12 in the mag, HK45 holds 10 The USP45 trigger, both DA and SA, is worse than the HK45 trigger. If I were going to buy a .45 from HK I would skip the USP and buy the HK 45 Tactical. Using search and not finding exactly what I'm looking for. The difference between the two in price after modification is less than $50. USP Expert USP Elite USP Tactical USP Custom Sport. Mar 12, 2013 #1/14 wanted to see if anyone had any opinions in the H&K usp chambered in .45 vs the HK45. The HK45 is 8.03 inches long, has a barrel length of 4.46 inches, and weighs just under two pounds with an unloaded. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. TIL. Mine is a LEM trigger, not DA/SA though. I have owned and shot USP 45's for awhile now but the ergos of the HK45 are really starting to appeal to me. As the HK45 Endurance Test started to wind down, pistol-training.com was fortunate to have two firearms industry legends â Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers â agree to discuss their involvement in the HK45âs history. I’ve never really noticed the trigger trough while shooting it. Unlike the older USP frame, the HK45 comes with three finger grooves at the front, anatomically adjusted flanks and a replaceable backstrap. 2) and the full sized FNX-45 that holds 15 rounds + 1 up the spout. Here's what I know. I am torn between an HK 45 and a USP 45 Tactical. There's a pretty detailed YouTube video on exactly this by devildolphin here. I have a VP9, and I like it, but I prefer hammer fired gun personally. Now that I see them side by side, the HK45 looks much more tempting. Very well made. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. The HK45 was developed as a product improvement of the highly regarded USP45, first released in the 1995. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. When comparing the two, my mind always went to the USP, simply because “it’s a USP”. I have a Stainless USP .45 full size, and a regular finished USP .45 full size. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Post H&K news, show off your guns, ask questions. The only downside for me it the polymer handle and frame seem a bit soft, as on duty it got a deep scratch along the length of the nice pretty grip textures. I could never get my grip right. Had a USP in 45 and an HK 45 Tactical- neither was horrible, ( although my ride the safety shooting style would occasionally decock the HK45), but neither really blew up my skirt either. I am torn between an HK 45 and a USP 45 Tactical. I’ve spent years pining after an HK, and there’s a lot here I still didn’t know. I put an LEM trigger kit in my USP9 that’s my carry gun, and I love it! The other common model is the USP compact, which is a good companion to the full-size.From an armorerâs perspective, the USP 45 is a dream. Rifles. Thank you, I'm one of those people debating between USP and HK45. Hmmm, maybe. But I have no idea if HK will make a VP45 or not, would be cool though! I stopped carrying it for that alone, in favor of my glock I don't care as much about and its a bit tougher. They both have pros and cons compared to each other. If it's still there next Friday when I get paid again, it will be put on layaway. The USP .45 is a great range gun, shot some of my best groups ever with it at the 50 yard line. I have meaty hands, so both were ergonomic "enough," but the HK45 … If I get the USP I will have custom night sights installed (the HK45 comes with night sights), if I get the HK45 I will buy the threaded barrel. I would rate the recoil of the HK 45 as slightly less than a 1911. I have owned and shot USP 45's for awhile now but the ergos of the HK45 are really starting to appeal to me. Notre système d'amortisseur breveté augmente la précision et la durée de vie, même dans les conditions d'emploi les plus sévères. The HK USP is big. I would rather have the USP 45T first, THEN the HK45. But was wanting to know peoples opinions are. In fact, I've had the FNX 45 and FNX 45 Tactical, a HK MK23 and now the HK45. The full sized version of the HK45 has a 4.5-inch barrel, weighs thirty-one ounces unloaded, and takes a ten-round magazine. I expect all three to outlast me The 45 feels more solid to me, like if there may be a quarter inch of tolerance on the whole gun. Replacable side and back inserts. Re: différence entre hk 45 acp tactical et hk usp tactical par bob razovski » 09 Juin 2015 16:23 J'aurais dû préciser, en effet, le volume du 21 est supérieur au 17, à … Get the HK45. The FN gives you more options out of the box and is a much more updated platform. But, it a BIG gun. The trigger is a bit hit and miss (-2 points). The USP 45 really isn’t designed for consumer use. If I could only have one, I’d personally pick the USP. The guns are pretty similar, but they do have some notable differences. Don't forget, the USP has its own proprietary rail, while the HK45/P30 has the universal picatinny rail that needs no adapter for attachments, also different size backstrap on the HK45, as well as different size side panels for customizing the grip on the P30. HK45: USP 2.0. Side bar comment I know a few guys who've been carrying usp's for years and have had no similar problems. When I was shopping for a .45 it was between the FN45 tactical and the HK45. Just don't fit me well and can't shoot them near as well as the HK45 or P30L. Using search and not finding exactly what I'm looking for. Jump to Latest Follow ... Plus its not like I don't have a usp 45 anyways. I love my XD .45, with its 10-13 rounds, vs. the 8+1 of the USPc, but I just love HK's! HK45: USP 2.0. Unlike the older USP frame, the HK45 comes with three finger grooves at the front, anatomically adjusted flanks and a replaceable backstrap. The FN handguns feel flimsy/cheap in comparison. I have both, i like the HK45 more due to the ergos. Hopefully that’s helpful for anyone interested in either of these pistols. Contrary to what you might think, the HK45 doesn’t replace the USP45, nor is it universally “better”, although it is much newer. I like the HK45C better, but they’re both fantastic guns. I have. I was surprised to find that DA/SA was the sweet spot for me. The HK45/P30 was a improvement over the standard USP, but mechanics of the guns are similar and the Mags are interchangeable (on the HK45c and the USP 45c). Capacity is reduced by 2 in HK45. This brand new Heckler & Koch USP 45 V1 (81000322) is a semi-automatic pistol which fires the .45 ACP round. The USP45 trigger, both DA and SA, is worse than the HK45 trigger. Unless it comes with more than 2 mags, and goodies. The trigger on the DA/SA HK45 tactical is nice to me. The HK USP 45 full size handgun is available in V1, which operates via double-action/single action, with a manual safety/decocking lever on the left side of the frame, or the V7 LEM variant which has the feel and response of a DA revolver with the crisp action of a SA pistol and no manual safety. I want to buy either a HK45C or a USP Compact 45. Any advantages of one over the other such as trigger pull smoothness and quality? The range guy talked me into trying out the compact version. The HK45 is comfy, ergonomic, and feels GREAT. But the HK45 trigger is worse then the USP Match trigger (which comes standard in the Tactical, and other âspecialâ versions). They feel rock solid. Personal preference. The ergonomics of the USP are excellent, in my opinion. Any advantages of one over the other such as trigger pull smoothness and quality? That broke my heart a bit. The barrel an⦠Very accurate pistols. Something about the arch of the backstrap on the USP and the HK45c has me putting rounds to the left UNLESS I consciously compensate. But I really like both and I have no intention of ever getting rid of either. The HK 45 is a Rolls Royce compared to the USP 45. Mine has been reliable, accurate, user-friendly and easy to clean. But the HK45 trigger is worse then the USP Match trigger (which comes standard in the Tactical, and other “special” versions). The FN holds 15+1. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. by ... different. Because DA first shot. And my LGS has a hk usp 45 compact and the hk45c. I had an HK45 that I ended up getting rid of and got a USP45 instead. The new Heckler & Koch HK45 LEM is based on the firm's USP pistol and was originally designed to meet requirements of the U.S. Military Joint Combat Pistol program. I've been reading about the HK45 and many comments refer to its natural feel for those who shoot 1911s, especially since it was designed by Larry Vickers and Ken Hackathorn. .45 ACP. Rating - 100%. Finally in the spot where I can get the HK 45 I've been wanting. I like the manual safety/decocker. So I went with the one on the OG rainbow six game cover, and a cheap police used one. Capacity is reduced by 2 in HK45. I picked up an HK45 and loved it. EDIT: If you get the HK45, I think the capacity concern will disappear after you shoot it for a while. Or even the HK45c. Using search and not finding exactly what I'm looking for. Just for preference reasons. There are several different models of the USP, but the one I tested was one common to the American market. Recoil is the same. Personal preference. Constructed for the US military based on the proven USP .45, our new HK45 and HK45 Compact models combine tried-and-tested characteristics with new features. If you don't want to contribute to the thread, please don't post use 'search'. Get the HK45. I want to buy either a HK45C or a USP Compact 45. 2: The backstrap on the USP grip will tear your hand up, even CUT your palm! General: Calibre .45 ACP Operating principle Recoil-operated with modified Browning locking system Magazine capacity 10 rounds Sights 3-dot sight Dimensions: Length approx. It is available in the same ten variants as the USP . EDIT: If you get the HK45, I think the capacity concern will disappear after you shoot it for a while. HK45 vs. FNX45. Here's what I know. I think they are both pretty sweet guns. Bought them together in 1995. While the ergonomics were great, I'm a lefty and my thumb kept riding the slide release. The USP45 trigger, both DA and SA, is worse than the HK45 trigger. The BIG advantage of the FNX in .45ACP is the 15 round capacity. Our patented recoil system increases accuracy and service life - even under the toughest conditions. It feeds any bullet shape, I like the match SWC's (jacketed) in it that caused feeding problems in Glocks and 1911's, the USP never bobbled them once. The HK45 is clearly the better choice. For the overwhelming number of people who feel like they need to have a .45 the only two real choices are the M&P45 and the HK45 and push come to shove if Iâve got to trust my life to one or the other, it would be the HK45. Seeing these photos, I’m surprised how similar the HK45 and the USPc .45 are. The album has captions describing some differences, but some comments that are more subjective: Most people will think the HK45 is more ergonomic. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The HK 45 will sit in the rig about a quarter inch further than the USP because the trigger guard is in either a slightly different position or the barrel is slightly longer. I think I’d have to handle them side by side to see which grip I prefer. I'm not partial to condition 1/cocked and locked so the DA part is significant to me. Its circumference is also smaller than the first generation 45-caliber polymer models, due chiefly to the slimmer magazine with a width of below 23 millimeters. *IF* you are looking for an HK pistol in 45, I'd go with the HK45, not the USP. Here's what I know. HK® USP® Full Size .45 ACP (10) Rd - Nickel Plated Steel. Hope this helps. Itâs a beefy animal that not every shooter finds fits their hands well. Pretty sure hkparts has magazine extensions for it but I know what you mean. The FN handguns feel flimsy/cheap in comparison. All in all, the HK45 is a solid gun, it just wasn't for me. What a terrific .45. Thanks for typing all of this out. You can put a USP Match trigger kit in an HK45 with the exception of the actual trigger. FNX-45 vs Glock vs HK USP-45 I've owned all three, 1) the model 30 glock (that holds 10 rounds and is compact) BTW, the glock model 36 is compact and only holds 6 rounds and the SLIDE is the same thickness (width) so you are NOT gaining anything for CCW. Two reasons: 1: Picatiny rail is standard on HK45, proprietary on USP. But the HK45 trigger is worse then the USP Match trigger (which comes standard in the Tactical, and other “special” versions). I like the checkering on the front and back of the USP grip better than the texturing that is on the entire HK45 grip. Conçus pour l'armée US sur la base de l'USP .45 éprouvé, nos nouveaux modèles HK45 et HK45 Compact allient qualité éprouvée et nouveauté. by ... different. HK USP .45 vs HK45 Thread starter ptrainerchris; Start date Mar 12, 2013; ptrainerchris. Replacable side and back inserts. The HK 45 isn't as soft shooting as the USP 45. How does FN's full size hammer-fried 45 pistol (FNX-45 Tactical) stack up against HK's classic (USP 45 Tactical)? I have shot the HK 45 and it was very accurate. Both guns are super durable and reliable, and they definitely give off that vibe. The HK45 is 10 rounds. The BIG advantage of the FNX in .45ACP is the 15 round capacity. Jump to Latest Follow ... Plus its not like I don't have a usp 45 anyways. Actually,the ONLY HK firearm that fits my gnarled paw is a HK45. Trigger, interchangable grip pads, o-ring barrel, phosphours sites, and on and on. I'm torn between outfitting a USP with the match trigger and night sights vs just getting a HK45T. For me they are a no go. *IF* you are looking for an HK pistol in 45, I'd go with the HK45, not the USP. For most people I don’t think it will be that much of a problem. The HK45 was developed as a product improvement of the highly regarded USP45, first released in the 1995. I have no experience on HK45's other than fiddling with a few at LGS's and found that the I didn't like the DA part of the trigger and the trigger trough. Press J to jump to the feed. The USP holds two more rounds in the mag, and has the dual spring recoil reduction system. I want the threaded barrel because I am buying a suppressor to go with it (all legal registered with the ATF). I want the threaded barrel because I am buying a suppressor to go with it (all legal registered with the ATF). Sorry to hear that your pistol was damaged like that. If you want to attach lights & lasers, the HK45 has similar ergonomics and a weaver-compatible accessory rail, instead of the proprietary accessory rail used by the USP. The HK P30 and HK45 are the new era of Heckler and Koch pistols. Magazines can be had for around 30-45 dollars, depending on the chambering of the gun. You can put a USP Match trigger kit in an HK45 with the exception of the actual trigger. HK 45 vs USP 45 Anyone have a lot of experience with both of these platforms? I’ve got a USP9 and an HK45C. HK45 vs USP 45. the HK45 either CT or T is the newest of the 3, and middle of the road. 13 0 0. (When I bought my USP, the HK45 wasn't invented yet.) Short story: Hands down the HK is more well made and solid. the USP Tactical 45 will probably be the one you'll find the best deal on, as there's lots of them out there, so a used one in good shape with some accessories is probably not hard to come across. HK USP .45 vs HK45 Thread starter ptrainerchris; Start date Mar 12, 2013; ptrainerchris. In ~5500 combined rounds I have yet to have a malfunction. This type of pin lasts much longer, wears better, and rarely experiences breakage. With my physiological problems with arthritis,I prefer the ergonomics of the HK45 over ANY variation of the USP frame HK's. HK45 would be perfect if they managed to keep the 12 rounds of .45 ACP. Mar 12, 2013 #1/14 wanted to see if anyone had any opinions in the H&K usp chambered in .45 vs the HK45. Also, while accurate, the USP was not generally what many would call match grade. HK45 vs. USP 45 Handguns: The Semi-automatic Forum. Either way for the holster it's going to sit deeper slightly. Very well made. The HK45 represents an evolutionary advancement of the Heckler & Koch USP, and shares the same operating principles of that weapon. Different but both good. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 2. The HK45 is 8.03 inches long, has a barrel length of 4.46 inches, … I’ve seen the question “HK45 or USP45?” come up a few times and have been meaning to make a comparison post, and I finally got around to it. 13 0 0. HK45 is considered better because it is more ergonomical. 2: The backstrap on the USP grip will tear your hand up, even CUT your palm! The HK P30 and HK45 are the new era of Heckler and Koch pistols. Considering it's quite a bit lighter than a 1911, that's pretty good. Rating - 100%. If my hands are wet or sweaty, I feel like the USP is easier to grip securely. The USP .45 Compact was undoubtedly the best pistol I’ve carried concealed. Here's what I know. See if you can try a USP Compact out first and then make your decision. Its circumference is also smaller than the first generation 45-caliber polymer models, due chiefly to the slimmer magazine with a width of below 23 millimeters. The HK 45 is a Rolls Royce compared to the USP 45. Pretty much the Reddit equivalent of HKpro, Press J to jump to the feed. I'm seeing a few smith's out there that will remove the trough but does the DA trigger ever smooth out? HK45 Interview with Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers. It’s a beefy animal that not every shooter finds fits their hands well. HK45 vs USP 45. Which one is more left handed friendly? The HK 45 has a polymer buffer instead of the USP's dual spring system. It has a bit more mass in the slide, compared to many other consumer grade guns. My shooting experience is only with the P30. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The two pistols are not comparable except for the caliber and recoil. You can put a USP Match trigger kit in an HK45 with the exception of the actual trigger. Trigger, interchangable grip pads, o-ring barrel, phosphours sites, and on and on. Little high IMO for a used-like-new USP 45T. They don't call it the master race for nothing ;), New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the HecklerKoch community, A subreddit for all things H&K and H&K clones. The USP has an aggressive grip texture. In fact, I've had the FNX 45 and FNX 45 Tactical, a HK MK23 and now the HK45. Also, the USP guns are about 100-150 bucks cheaper. Joined Jan 5, 2013 Messages 650 Likes 109 Location Weston MA. HK45 vs. FNX45. Which one is more left handed friendly? Heckler & Koch Pistol Shootout P30 vs. HK45. My reasoning is: 1. It has a 4.25" barrel and matte black finish. Didn't find the LEM to be all that great for me. I don't have much love for the USP compacts though. The HK45 is 8.03 inches long, has a barrel length of 4.46 inches, and ⦠HK45 – CAL. They are a lot of fun and I’d highly recommend both of them. A few years ago over on PF they did a 50,000 round test on the HK45, it did very well. If you don't want to contribute to the thread, please don't post use 'search'. I really enjoy my HK45. $950 for a HK45 is good though. Replacable side and back inserts. Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 4, 2013. I'd probably convert a HK45 to a V3 (decocker only). The HK45 is an evolutionary step forward from the USP, chambered in.45 ACP. I have had my USP .45 … Two reasons: 1: Picatiny rail is standard on HK45, proprietary on USP. Le joint torique monté à l'avant du canon minimise le jeu. If I get the USP I will have custom night sights installed (the HK45 comes with night sights), if I get the HK45 I will buy the threaded barrel. The Caliber .45 ACP HK45 includes several user-inspired enhancements including changeable grip panels (backstraps), a Picatinny MIL-STD-1913 accessory rail, better ergonomics, and more ambidextrous controls.
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