Otherwise MBA is the standard path. Or do they usually only recruit from top MBA programs? From there, I plan to go MBB. I think amongst the Big 4, Deloitte is making serious headway in growing it’s advisory practice by acquiring Monitor and it’s own internal efforts. I would say harder from the big 4 but not impossible May 11, 2020 3 1 The Big 3 are the three most prestigious strategy consulting firms in the world.They're also known as MBB, short for McKinsey, BCG and Bain. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I'm thinking of taking an offer from one of the big 4 in advisory. MBB firms are known for strategy consulting, and are very good at it. I got my job at BCG via a LinkedIn ad. The experience has been like nothing else I've seen professionally. Hi Anonymous, big 4 audit or advisory is pretty different from strategy consulting, thus you would not benefit from the lateral hires opportunities that non-MBB strategy consultants may have, with lower chances to get an interview. Response 1 of 5: There’s good tips to be had on Consulting Reddit, including sample CVs. While not unheard of, its rare. But it does happen - it however depends greatly on what you do with your time in a Big4. I know that MBB is considered the most prestigious, while firms like Parthenon and LEK have had strong pay and been seen as highly attractive options. I’m starting at the big 4 soon too and I’m working in data so that is transferable to strategy as they need data people in strategy. I know a few other interns who are former Big 4 auditors so it's not uncommon. Which Big 4 will be first to get people back in the office? If you need more help, check out the SD card page . I am just wondering if anyone can speak to the quality of the exit opportunities for those in the Big 4 and top boutique firms as opposed to MBB. It's not all the time, but a lot of the people I'm meeting even up to the C level in startup or director level elsewhere are relatively young and inexperienced. So for the older crowd, even with 'good' outcomes some of the people I'm interviewing with are younger and less qualified than myself. I didn't go M7 but I'm interning at MBB, so it's definitely possible. For what it's worth I had pretty much the same/worse profile (same GMAT but less prestigious undergrad). A major difference between the MBB and Big 4 is, while MBBs are restricted to management consulting/advisory, Big 4 typically do 3 things – accounting/audit, tax and consulting/advisory. I’m not sure what Big 4 consulting is? Is MBA required? I’ll be graduating with my masters in applied economics before starting at b4 (quantitative degree), so I’m hoping that’d help in a long run. Otherwise MBA is the standard path. I'm thinking of taking an offer from one of the big 4 in advisory. I’m not inventory. Response 1 of 33: Yes: money, prestige and not dealing with some weird staffing and performance bullshit that the Big 4 have. Let’s roll our sleeves up and figure this out. That should explain. I was looking into the careers at transaction and strategy group at my b4, and they didn’t seem to have anything for people with experience in tax. (Obviously i woulnd't mind starting over as a first year, and that's what i would be applying to. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Being able to pass on bad staffing without fear of losing util give the ability to develop and do what they like). Curious how difficult the switch from big four financial advisory to MBB is? At 2-3 years you will be looking at a promotion in Big 4 advisory and then you would pivot back to post-MBA associate at MBB? (Roland Berger vs Deloitte is too close to generalize and the comparison would depend on which part of Deloitte, etc…) So, the question you have to ask yourself is: what about you makes you better than everyone else you work with, so much so that MBB would hire you over them? Big 4 are the four biggest networks of professional services firms in the world, in over 100 countries. If so how long did you work in the big 4 before making the switch? It's tough but happens occasionally. Via MBA usually. (Eg utilization. Usually, #6 Kansas (10-3, 4-2) facing off against Iowa State (2-7, 0-5) would be a primetime, must watch game. What if you are ok with starting over. The people these firms are recruiting are also completely different from regular Big 4 positions. However, many of the Big 4 have now also a strategy branch, thanks to the acquisition of Booz (PwC), Monitor (Deloitte) and Parthenon (EY), thus moving towards strategy and more direct … I'd say it's near to impossible to transfer from Big4 tax to MBB since what you'd be learning isn't that transferable. It CAN be done, but its a very tough road. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A community for consultants and those interested in consulting, Press J to jump to the feed. Yes I agree with this. Most don’t make it. Virtual Console games, regardless of platform are rarely over 12 MB large, and are often quite a bit smaller. From there, it is pretty common to make a jump to MBB without an MBA. If you have an interest in making a career in business, you may have thought of applying for a consulting position at one of them. Let's not even consider post-MBA consulting which is $100-130k+. Some areas are easier to move from than others. I’ll assume that question was made in jest, but I’ll answer it seriously anyway… MBB and the Big 4 aren’t really competitors in most segments. What skill set do you bring to the table that will make you stand above everyone else you work with? Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/consulting. I've spent the past 2 years working for a Big 4 Consulting firm as a management consultant. I think the one that can figure it out with the right precautions will be the new leader. As in, out of college i failed the first fase interviews on all mbb. Hi Anonymous, Big 4 and MBB have a different focus in terms of projects.Specifically, Big 4 work more on implementation projects rather than strategy. Usually the ones who make the switch do it through recommendations from MBB consultants. What if you are ok with starting over. Big 12 MBB Preview: 2/8-2/12 Baylor has its game against OU postponed this week, but there are plenty of other Big 12 games! I don't understand why you would. I have a lot of friends that moved from OW to MBB and have colleagues that worked at MBB before. That being said, you could do a transfer in your Big4 to a more of a strategy or transaction based role and from that into MBB. Just curious, thank you in advance for all responses! Simply put, MBB is tough. The New 3DS and 3DSXL come with 4 GB Micro-SD cards, and support many sizes, though sizes over 32 GB need to be reformatted to FAT32 via computer. Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose. A community for consultants and those interested in consulting, Press J to jump to the feed. For example in EY, their OTS practice was recently re-labeled as EY-Parthenon which used to be their strategy arm, plenty of people from almost all service lines at EY transfer to OTS every year. They recommended that I work where I am first and make connections in the strategy arm of my big 4 company and then switch to strategy there. Response 1 of 10: Outside of the perceived prestige why do you want to go to MBB? Its sought after and many people join an MBA with exactly MBB in mind. I worked for many years in the industry and then briefly at a Big 4 firm in London before moving back to the industry again. Big 4 tax -> MBB I’m starting at a big 4 in their tax service line this summer. I'm not too familiar with compensation at MBB first year, but depending on city, I'd guess it's typically around $10k+ over Big 4 audit/tax first year and an actual bonus. If you have a really good answer to that question, then you have a chance. The title pretty much says it all. While not unheard of, its rare. Get really good at casing and network your way into some interviews. Otherwise MBA is the standard path. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. While not unheard of, its rare. Would that be a plus if i try to apply to mbb (or tier two management consulting) next year? Or are you asking about coming into MBB as a manager w/ 2-3 years expereince. The more recognizable ones are Strategy& PwC and Deloitte Strategy. Usually the ones who make the switch do it through recommendations from MBB consultants. Most of us (myself included) would jump ship in a heartbeat if it was an option. Well, a good idea for you would be to transition to a strategy team at big 4. Any specific roles that you’ve heard about that I could look into? Usually the ones who make the switch do it through recommendations from MBB consultants. Shortlist the regions you’d apply in, and try to do some research into what expertise is in demand, so you have a sense of the offices that’d be most interested in what you have to offer. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Its much more common for Big4 to go get an MBA at a school where MBB recruits and make the jump that way. It will take some effort, but I think we need to get back to it. Think FAANG, VC, MBB, unicorn startups. That all said, its a rare event. As in, out of college i failed the first fase interviews on all mbb. Watch for alerts on LinkedIn. The thing to remember is there is a dirty little secret in consulting; just about everyone in consulting who doesn't work for MBB applied and was rejected. I know someone who’s done exactly this. I think Roland Berger is a better opportunity than 3 of the 4 Big 4 firms.
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