Is there a special adhesive I could use? 9 months ago I hung lining paper and painted it with crown white matt in a bedroom. also what is best to paint over lining paper- a roller or brushes? Ware and tear if you have young children or pets may also sway your choice, if you pay £30 upwards for per roll of wallpaper and the kids decide to draw all over it you may not be best pleased! Putting the paper horizontally will allow you to paper over in the future. I have just started to paint over it and it is showing up some air bubbles. You can a fine surface filler to fill the joints, rub down and then paint just be careful not to use a course sandpaper to rub down filler, otherwise you will rough up the paper and this would then show. Wipe adhesive off the face of the paper, allow to dry for 12-24 hours, then paint , Hi, I want to paint over lining paper but I can see the seams, any how to hide them. Hi, when you have sized walls, hall, stairs and landing for instance, how long can you leave it before you do your paper hanging, thanx. Filler may do the job but could damage paper whilst rubbing filler down. Most paints should be ok on lining paper but they will work differently to each other just as you would find on say a canvas or watercolour paper. One of the benefits of painting onto lining paper is that it needs less preparation than plaster walls or drywall. You can paint over the rest of the lining paper, use a cheapish white or an obliterating emulsion to block out the colour, one coat maybe enough, then two of the new colour. It is hard to say without seeing it, but firstly try and resolve the cause of the problem, such as any damp, mould etc. Why did this happen and what is the best way to stick them down without makin a gluey mess. Use thin coat of filler to try to level strips to remaining sound lining paper. I have very textured walls and wanted to paint one wall with chalk paint–but because of the bumpy texture, writing on it would not look good. I cleaned them all with sugar soap and painted with emulsion and while it does look a lot nicer there are still visible marks coming through the paint. Also, small touch ups on egg shell or flat wall paint is easier than touch-ups on semi-gloss trim. 4. Avoid unsightly lumps by sanding and smoothing all filled holes before you hang the lining paper. Yes it’s ok to wallpaper over painted lined walls, and yes it’s ok to size them. If you scrape some lining paper off but not all of it there will be different levels on the wall and will show? Many thanks. I have scraped of most of the peeling paint as far as it is peeling but I am now left with a slight uneven surface. We have recently painted over lining paper. I have recently used lining paper over one of my walls and started to paint it but bubbles started to appear how can i get rid of these. Can we repaint directly over the top of that or do we need to prep/prime first? Hi I have bought striped wallpaper for a feature wall and would like to hang it horizontally. If you really feel comfortable manipulating a 16 foot-long piece of wallpaper as you stand 10 feet above the ground you probably should become a professional paperhanger. It will blister and come off the walls if you paint on it while it is still wet. Listed under Blog, products, suppliers Posted Jan 10 2011. B&Q Customer Services Team - 0333 014 3357. However, the moisture from the emulsion when you paint the walls could loosen the paper even more. as to why my newly hung lining paper is bubbling when I paint over it? The paint can … The walls are stud partition with plaster board. As for the grade of lining paper, this depends on the walls it is going over but typically 1200 or 1400 should suffice. I use a roller to paste with but a brush is just as good, just ensure a good even coverage. Under optimal conditions, we can tape after maybe 4 hours and do second coats in the same day. Hi Kevin, yes you can wallpaper on top of lining paper as long as the lining paper is ok, you can always test this by putting a coat of emulsion on it to see if any bubbles appear and remain or the joints start to lift. I like cheap. In this article, we’re going to look at how you can hang and paint lining paper to achieve the same finish as a newly plastered wall. Hi, It sounds as if you have done the prep work, you do not need to sugar soap the walls, as you have rubbed them down just make sure there isn’t any rough bits left, then dust the walls down and hang the lining paper. If it is that bad I would take it off and re-paper so I knew it would last OK. Hi, we’re moving into a flat and have started lining the walls in the living room, hallway and one of the bedrooms but there seems to be quite a lot of bubbling coming through, one corner of the bedroom still hasn’t fully dried after days, although there was a bit of mould in that area which I treated with mould repellent, do you think there could be a damp problem? Grahams specializes in technology and communications. If you use a smooth over filler, such as from polycell, you should be able to get away without lining the walls. I now have a bare plastered wall all be it in good condition. Its our first DIY ….lining paper for the kitchen…it has taken us ages to prep the old bumpy holey walls and hang the lining paper…started to emulsion today and the paper is bubbling! It is always best to remove paper rather than fill over it. The seal has gone on my double glazing causing moisture to run down lining paper causing a horrible water stain. Re: Hang a new door - Paint first or paint after hanging « Reply #2 on: March 24, 2014, 10:01 AM » Well I tend to fit and hang a door, then take it down for painting because I can do a better paint job. This only seems a problem since being lined as maybe the paper is prone to absorb any damp? Prepairing the walls for lining paper – http://www.rayfields.co.uk/blog/prepairing-the-walls-for-lining-paper/ I would buy new paste. If you paper over it you will still see the lumps of adhesive show through. Hello, I am an artist and would like to use some lining paper for painting on. You can use a diluted PVA solution to help seal the walls if the paint is very flaky. I have just moved into a house with lining paper in the lounge. Many thanks for all of your information. Should i pva the walls before lining over the flaked walls? However, I just want to make sure that I understand completely what it is that I need to do. so you can see the border edge top and bottom all the way along. I don’t really want to strip off the lining paper and have to tackle all the glue underneath etc…. I have just stripped wallpaper from my lounge walls which has left rough plaster and flaking emulsion paint or bare plaster. But like I say hard to say without seeing. Its really a case of what ever works for you. It is a dulux matt paint in light and space range, and we have another from the range in another room which is totally fine. is this true or do you have any other ideas that would help? i find you need two good coats to ensure good coverage, also the lining paper does tend to soak it up a bit. http://www.mypaintbrush.co.uk/primers-and-coatings/zinsser-primers/zinsser-bin-primer&tracking=5780f43b6e6d7. If it doesn’t tighten up use some border / overlap adhesive to stick back, you may have to use a sharp knife to cut the bubble to apply adhesive. If you go the lining paper route or the smooth over route you could use a cheap white emulsion to seal the walls before apply 2-3 coats of bathroom paint, as this can be expensive. I am using a Matt emulsion with a roller but it appears to not be taking the paint in sections any advice? So the worse your old walls are the thicker the lining paper needs to be. Hanging it presents a few challenges as the paper is heavier than normal wallpaper and -- while the raised pattern is resilient -- you can't apply too much pressure when smoothing it down. Could it be a problem with the lining paper? If the prep work is done and good paste is used and paper soaked long enough the lining paper should not bubble when painted over. It may of been loosened as the top of the paper came off, the edges may become loose and the moisture in the emulsion could lift this backing paper. My only guesses are the new paint was a non vinyl and it is coming off when damp and wiped, or the original paint was shiney and it the new paint is peeling off, this could be because the surface wasn’t prepared. Can you advise please. I might add that when hanging paper on bare walls, cause I take so long I paste both paper and wall. I have just lined my walls with liling paper and gently rubbed down the fine surface filler within the 1mm gaps. Either of these primers can be applied, like paint, with a brush or roller. Hanging the lining paper vertically maybe easier also and that way you will be cross lining. I have given two coats of a coloured Matt emulsion to lining paper which had been painted much lighter, but it still looks really patchy. Rather than removing all the lining paper and disturbing the ceiling you could cut out the affected area and make good. Use a brush to cut in and a roller for going over the main part of the wall. Hi Kevin, You can paper on top of the existing lining as long as you ensure that the existing lining is sound and not loose. I am planning to just repaint the walls and suspect the plaster is not 100%under the lining paper although the walls apart from the crack look fine. Glad you like the site, and will share with your friends . We have had the master bedroom, bathroom, hallway, landing, stairs and reception rooms stripped of their wall paper, and have found mixed things underneath. Hi, I removed polystyrene tiles on my ceiling and there are bits of adhesive stuck firmly on ceiling. Ive just spent ages putting lining paper up in my bedroom gone to paint over it and there is loads of bubbles how is this and do i need to take the rest of and start again?? Lining paper has always primarily been used to give a smooth base in which to wallpaper over, however, a few years back wallpaper wasn’t fashionable and plain emulsioned walls, were all the rage but people soon realised that their walls were not that perfect, hence why they had the woodchip or embossed anaglypta or highly pattered wallpaper they had on the walls. Who ever did the painting before did it with a brush so there are A LOT of brush marks giving a poor visual finish. The problem i found on cold outer walls are that there tends to be some faint yellow ‘spots’ appear like on the pages of old books presumably from damp. ( all the paint was free ) I now intend to decorate and am thinking of hanging 1700 grade lining paper over the top and painting. He holds a Bachelor of Science, postgraduate diplomas in journalism and website design and is studying for an MBA. I think the lining paper is so that should you want to paper later,you can always get the old one off.Much more difficult if you have painted straight onto the plaster as the wallpaper paste will stick to the paint,not the plaster and peel off. I’ ve read that you can buy thicker one to smooth the walls and then paint them. Andy Crichton May 25th, 2015 at 11:30 Generally, if you coat a bare plaster wall, and have a cup of tea, when you get back, it is probably dry to the touch, so you can get on with the papering. I’ll have a proper look at home. ... Leave for a good 24 hours to dry out then you can paint it. Hi I have just moved into a house and I have stripped 3 rooms in the house, the walls are really bumpy and have marks where the last owner must of tried filling and made a mess of it, if I sand these down and put lining paper up will it lessen the look of bumps and lumps, and I have heard that lining paper can bubble when painted is there anyway I can stop this from happening also what grade lining paper is best to use? In some areas the plaster has been pulled away leaving defects. How to mix wallpaper paste. I’m going to do an area of chalkboard paint in my sons room. There are four main factors that determine how long you should keep hands off your new beauty: Type of Paint Oil-based paint - dry to the touch in 6–8 hours and ready to recoat in 24 hours. Don’t over soak the wall otherwise the lining paper may start to lift. How to wallpaper a hall landing and stairs. As the lining paper from the old Vinyl is very thin I thought I’d redecorate with nice thick lining paper BUT you may well have a point..I will have to inspect the whole and see. I’ve stripped very old, emulsioned embossed wallpaper off my parents bedroom wall today and discovered even older (but well done) painted lining paper underneath. When viewed from front on it is not as bad but on the stairway with a side on view it is very noticeable. If you wish to emulsion your walls rather than wallpaper them but the plasterwork isn’t wonderful you can hang lining paper and then emsulsion over it, just remember, lininig paper will not give you wonderful smooth walls that are blemish free, it isn’t the quick and easy fix. Apply adhesive to both the paper and wall, allow to soften the paper for a few minutes then stick back removing any excess adhesive, allow to dry for 24 hours and it should be OK? Can I put another layer vertically ? There are also fixing holes in the wall where the old towel radiator was. I pulled down some wallpaper in a room I am repainting, as it was peeling and quite a mess. Hi, I found your post very informative and interesting. Typically lining paper is wider (56cm) than wallpaper (52/53cm) so it shouldn’t matter which way you hang it, as long as the joints of the lining paper and wallpaper fall on the same place. Hi – Is it possible to paint directly over old wall paper or should the walls have fresh lining paper applied first? Use any standard matt wall emulsion or vinyl-based paint to paint over lining paper. Two good coats of quality paint should be enough to cover lining paper. Thank you. If this is the route you wish to take you need to know how to hang the lining paper. Tags: Anaglypta, Emulsion, Lining Paper, Paint, Paper, Wallpaper, Woodchip Posted in DIY Tips | 233 Comments ». Our room has lining paper and was painted by the previous owners. Before you hang the lining paper, we recommend removing any existing layers of wallpaper. What was it over painted with. Uses of lining paper. You can paper over emulsioned lining wallpaper, as long as the lining paper is sound there shouldn’t be any problems. One coat of paint later, you can still see the marks on either side of the gaps. 1) I’ve removed the wallpaper in my living room, and what’s left is what I *think* is lining paper. Thanks in advance. Apply to the wall using a pasting brush or paint roller before you hang your lining paper. The walls in a number of our rooms have hairline cracks that are visible through the old lining paper that has been emulsioned over by the previous owners. Hi, hope you can help. We want to paint it a different colour. E-Mail (will not be published) (required), DIY Blog : Trade Tips For the Do It Yourself Enthusiast, © Copyright 2012 - 2021 Adrian Rayfield All Rights Reserved What does sizing the walls mean? I have stripped wallpaper from two walls and found strips of polystyrene wall lining underneath. Opening or poor seams occur when the seams of the wallpaper spring or open during the drying process. It looks fantastic. Thanks! We also had rewiring and had casings done and replastered. Or just replace the. I’m from Poland and here the lining paper is not so known and commonly used as in the UK therefore I haven’t had any experiences with it before. Thanks. We have used a scraper to remove the paint that was flaking, but where the paint is still sound there is a ‘ridge’ between the remaining paint and the bare plasterboard. For textured lining paper, use a medium-nap paint roller for better coverage. Paint the main area of the wall with a 5- to 6-inch paintbrush or a paint roller. Do I use some sort of primer first? I was wondering what kind of paint can be used over the top; acrylic, oil, watercolours? Also do you use a standard emulsion or a dedicated primer undercoat? Some of the old hand prints used to tell you to cross line and then seal the lining paper with hot glue size before hanging, used to love using that stuff. The only thing I can think of is that maybe there was some grease or dirt and the emulsion has reacted with this? I’m happy to paint over this but it is covered in gunky and sticky old wallpaper paste. Generally you can paper and emulsion kitchen walls but if you must paper and paint the bathroom walls use eggshell. Can I use it as directed without fear of a massive foul up, or should I treat the application differently somehow (e.g. Lv 7. If you're wallpapering, you'll need to size the walls before you begin (this just involves 'painting' the wall with watered-down wallpaper paste and then letting it dry). Do I still need to prime or/and line the walls to get a good result? Can lining paper be used on ceiling to hide this, so I can paint over with white emulsion? Thanks. Please advice:) Thanks! Also is a good ideea to apply a key of diluted PVA but allow this to dry first before lining the paper… What happens when I want to redecorate? 2. It maybe worth buying a heavy duty scrapper for a few pounds, these have a sharp blade and may tackle the job easier. I need you help I just strip my bedroom walls and behind the paper up the top of the wall its seem to feel smooth dont think the linning paper will stick to it ?so do you think I need to put a smooth over first or would the linning paper stick to it never decorated before can you help .also which is best to paste the with roller or brush thanks. Just standard wallpaper paste and leave 5 mins or so to soak before hanging. As long as the lining paper is stuck well and dry it should be OK to paste the wall. Cheers. Otherwise I suggest you call a professional paper hanger for any sort of job of this magnitude. it has lining paper from 20 years ago, but after painting, the paper peeled off the ceiling. After it has been installed on the wall, painting over wallpaper liner is no different than painting over any other type of wallpaper. Heya. Hi, I have some ready mixed wallpaper paste left over in a tub from about 10 months ago. You can also use a special glue size called wallpaper primer/sealer to prime the walls. Roller. I’m thinking sugar soap, but would I need to rinse it off before painting? 3. We’ve removed two walls of paneling and scraped off the very old wallpaper. Fill a bucket with warm water and add a squeeze of dish detergent. I have a few questions: 1. If the gaps are too big, you will probably want to try to re-apply the wallpaper. @Tina The plaster is fairly sound and we want to paint over them. Also make sure that you use a paperhanging brush to smooth out air bubbles when hanging the paper. Further reading: Shall a rub them down or is there anything else I could do ? When done, ensure the wall is dried before painting. Unfortunately I’ve marked the paper at the side of the gaps – not sure if it is excess filler or if I’ve scratched the paper when removing the excess filler. Thanks for the reply though. Do we have to apply sizing after painting, or can we paste and wallpaper directly onto the painted liner paper? If the current lining paper is generally OK apart from just a few minor areas of lifting, I would stick them back first, if this doesn’t work you can always strip the walls if you aren’t happy with the sticking back. Covering cracks, but does it also keep a room slightly warmer? If the walls are lined why do you need to use a basecoat? thanks! I have tried gluing them back down, filler and rubbed them flat and only saved one wall (no matter how much paint i put over the joints. We are all budget conscious these days and have to budget for all expenses, decorating is no exception. Use long, smooth strokes or rolls to apply paint evenly. To some degree you can 'slide' the paper 'Size' is itself a thin paste. If the paint is ‘powdery’ then the paste wouldn’t of adhered to the wall well. Will there be an obvious join? I would really appreciate any help or advice you can offer, thank you! danielfitchie, 19 Oct … Let the lining paper dry out for approximately 24 hours and then you can start to hang your wallpaper. I am converting the room into a child’s room and have found some great paper (black and white picture frames, for the child to draw/paint on) and want to just put this on one wall – not the whole room. Once you have hung the lining paper you need to allow it to fully dry before you emulsion over it, this will take normally between 12 – 24 hours depending on drying conditions. The filler really needs to go into the crack. Thanks in advance, and apologies if these questions have already been answered before. I will try to paint just those areas, let it dry and then apply another coat. hi can you help please. Thank you. As for changing colour, this post will answer that for you Tips for changing the colour of emulsion. i have recently moved house and i have had to strip all the walls in the entire house as the previous tennant has intentionally pealed off one strip of wallpaper in each room so they are all stripped now and i was intending on puting up 1000 grade lining paper and then painting. If the lining paper has lifted at the seams. Should I still use lining paper on this area or is it best not to line it if it is to be chalked on? You can put extra paint over the joints to ‘fill’ them in a bit if they aren’t too wide. I have removed old wallpaper from walls that have had wallpaper lining applied to the walls. Use the information below and you will nail it! Also, make sure you lap over enough from when you re-fill the roller and try and keep a ‘wet’ line as you cover an area. If you mean there is lining paper behind the wallpaper then depending on how much paste is left whether you paint it or not, again I wouldn’t as a rule. If it was my house, I would strip paper and re-line or strip and then fill and paint. I would imagine you would end up with the emulsion lifting the glue and leaving a right mess? I am worried that it will peel or BE a completely different color when all is said and done! Some sandpapers can be to harsh for rubbing down, as it sounds as you have found out. If filling the joints hasn’t worked. If I do manage to remove the old paste, would a modern matt emulsion react to it? what can I Use to remove the wallpaper glue and what is best to flatten down the edges of emulsion paint left where it meets bare parts of plaster? I have now painted over all of these walls with white matt emulsion hoping that lining paper will cover these imperfections. Was there any adhesive left on the face of the paper? I believe it is ok to wallpaper over emulsion painted lining paper but can you size the lining paper to help slide when hanging the new wallpaper. – http://www.propertydecorating.co.uk/blog/?p=116 The walls are all painted without any lining/wallpaper underneath. I’m not sure painting over a second coat, or third for that matter would cover up the scratched paper, but you could always try painting over the filled areas first to see how it looks. Without seeing it, it is hard to pinpoint the problem. As for the raised bumps I’m guessing it is filler or rawl plugs under the paper, not as easy to remedy unless taking lining paper off and re papering. happy painting. I am looking to redecorate a room that has lining paper. The solution I’m guessing would be to either repaint in a vinyl or bathroom paint, strip lining paper off and re-line and paint. Wallpapering – http://www.propertydecorating.co.uk/blog/?s=wallpaper we stuck it back with glue but now a slight gap has appeared. It’s depends I guess, how much it will be used, it could get scratched a lot by the chalk? You can wash the lining paper with sugar soap, just don’t soak the paper too much otherwise it could start lifting and come off, just a damp cloth should suffice. It sounds like there wasn’t enough paste on the joints, or they simply dried out. If the plaster is flaking, remove loose and fill, rub down smooth and level. Lining paper is a plain light coloured paper that usually has 2 uses, which are a base paper to reduce any blemishes on a wall before hanging ... A Guide to Lining Wallpaper Contribute My question is: will it be noticeable when I paint (white) that only half the wall is lined? I recently just remove the previous tenant paper to discover how terrible the walls are. How can we clean this without making the lining paper peel off? No treatment is required before wallpapering. Don’t despair. Our decorator seems to want to just line everything, but has not mentioned prepping the walls at all first! The bottom half is smoothly plastered. Do we need to apply anything to the beadboard first? Any advice gratefully received! After applying the liner paper, we are going to paint using a similar color to compliment the wallpaper, in case of any gaps. Let the lining paper dry for at least 24 hours. After it has been installed on the wall, painting over wallpaper liner is no different than painting over any other type of wallpaper. Not to advertise but Poundlands Toolbox Masking Tape , 4 rolls for 1 pound is ‘ Low tack’. thanks. The advantage of emulsioning your walls is that you can change the look and feel of a room fairly cheaply just buy buying another colour of emulsion, you can keep on trend with the colour of the year rather than the latest fashionable wallpaper trend. I’m about to decorate my bedroom walls which have previously had vinyl silk painted on them (direct onto plastered walls). Please can you advise how to sort this problem out? Will the new paper definitely cove the old pattern? If this is the case maybe cleaning the affected area’s off and then repainting them. If so what sort of adhesive should I use? Do not be dismayed..if you follow the correct preparation you will achieve a good result. If they are 1-2 mm wide then yes they will more than likely show. I think it is backing paper also. Also, hanging lining paper will give you plenty of practice, should you want to use a more expensive and decorative wallpaper as your top layer. You can use an acrylic paint, but I tend to use a bit of the colour I am going to paint the wall with to go over the filler, then a good two or three coats over the paper. just paste it as normal)? I've just painted our new bathroom - was ready to do 2 days after it was skimmed. I used very thick lining paper because I thought the thinner stuff wouldn’t hide the embossed surface. I stripped the lining papers and repaired the cracks . Also, as this is an old lining paper how do I deal with raised bumps which are already there. A popular search that often comes up is, “Can I paint over lining paper?” Many people are not sure what lining paper is meant for or how to use it. If they do it to an emulsioned wall you may not be best pleased still but it can be sorted out quickly and cheaply buy painting over it. Do I need to remove the old liner and reapply new? My question is can I hang the new paper directly on the the plastered wall or do I need to primer and line the wall first, I want to finish the job this week as I have guest coming for the weekend and also work full time. The lining paper appears to be peeling away at some of the seams, not drastically but it looks fairly unsightly. Hello. Preparing the walls for lining paper. However we’ve started to paint and the lining paper is coming away? You can also use lining paper to give yourself a sound base to work from. I was wondering if I could put another layer over the top ? 1 decade ago. Or re-paper, you could hang the lining paper over what you have just put up, just ensure the edges of the paper do not lay on the ones under it as it could lift the first lot of paper off at the joints. Do we need to apply anything else to the painted liner before wallpapering? Was the paint shiny before it was painted over? Hi, Can you apply lining paper directly onto wet emulsion, instead of using paste, if there are still slight imperfections in the original paintwork? so i was wondering about papering over it. The paper should withstand it OK. The simple solution is to apply the paste evenly with a 9″ medium pile roller, or paste machine if you have one, and let the paper soak well, (about 10 minutes). The paint has been on for 2 months now so is completely dry despite the number of coats! ), A worker at the Home Depot told me the paint may weigh it down and slide off my walls. Could we put thick lining paper onto it to make it smooth and then paint it. Also after preparing a wall it's good to paint it with wallpaper adhesive or pva and let it dry before you …
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